Lamictal and Mania?

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Anyone here on Lamictal and experiencing insomnia/hypomania?

I have been on Lamictal for a month (in a slow steady increase as per directions -- now at 100mg/daily) and I am in a strange place. Well, perhaps not so strange as perplexing.

I cannot sleep. I have cleaned the house, done laundry, washed dishes, organized and puttered aimlessly after working all day. Is this just winter doldrums (due to being cooped up with all this Northern California rain), or could it be just a nasty side effect of this med? Or (more likely) a prelude to a manic cycle? I know only I am able to "really know" what's going on for me....I guess I'm just looking to here from folks on meds who are new to the diagnosis and are still trying to work out and understand where the meds end and my "self" begins. Or vice versa.

While it's always nicer to be "up" than "down", I am uneasy in this extended hypomania -- where the hell is that going to take me? I shudder to consider the possibilities.

I'm so new to being aware that all my electric white mania and dark lows are part and parcel of Bipolar... just so unsure of what is me or meds or just the need to better manage my (seemingly) rapid cycling.

Any comments, ideas, stories of your own experiences (and of course Support) are welcomed!
Thanks so much for being here and listening.
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    Mon, January 2, 2006 - 11:33 AM
    Same story here on lamictal. But I'll say for the first time in a long time I feel grounded. Except for a two day blip just recently where I crashed hard, I am back to feeling ok. Lots of energy and focus. Try working out, it helped me to get back on a normal sleeping schedule.
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      Mon, January 9, 2006 - 7:14 AM
      Lamictal has helped me feel "grounded" also
      I feel better then ever before....like a "normal" person
      without feeling depressed
      maybe this is the cure. I don't know
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      Mon, October 1, 2007 - 8:50 PM
      I have found that there are two types of marijuana: Sativa and Indica. You want to make sure that you use the indica strains to mellow out the mania parts of bipolar. Medicinal marijuana has been approved for bipolar disorder. At least, take a look.
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        Tue, October 2, 2007 - 2:14 PM
        I agree, Lars. Indica strains do work for manic episodes very well. It's the sativa that you need to stay away from if one is prone to mania, paranoia, etc. I knew a guy who felt psychotic if he smoked a strain that was more than 25-30% sativa, but he did very well on indicas.
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    Mon, January 2, 2006 - 11:21 PM
    I've been on Lamictal (and 2 other things) for 4 years. I had a 9 month hypo state last year (2005) and it was the first one I'd had since diagnosed nearly 9 years ago. I'm in a normal state right now (for me) and the hypo didn't evolve into anything harmful, so I don't plan to make any changes... it's so hard to know what to do sometimes. Good luck to you!
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    Tue, January 3, 2006 - 8:29 PM
    Story of me and my Lamictal. I am going through the exact same thing. I can't eat, can't sleep, can't think.
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      Wed, January 4, 2006 - 3:04 PM
      Thanks for the feedback; I am SO glad this is kinda normal for the drug. Keep those stories and info coming!

      Jason - excellent idea, working out to keep the energy to a dull roar AND getting my sleep cycle more balanced.

      Melissa Jade - great to hear from someone who's been on Lamictal for a while and doing well. A good point that hypo/mania isn't necessarily "bad" if it's power is used for good. :)
      From what I've read about other drugs for Bipolar, I'm glad I'm tolerating the Lamictal well -- it seems to be the 'darling' of the psych meds, and I am feeling better than usual about this time of year.

      Jamie - write me if you want to talk about what's going on for you. This is definitely a process...medication and awareness, therapy and support... and you can never have too many friends who understand. Are there 'triggers' that seem to push or pull you into these feelings? I'm certainly still learning what 'sets me off'.
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    Fri, January 6, 2006 - 10:36 AM
    I was having the same problem. Talked to my doctor and he said lamictal actually only works on the depressive side without pushing you into mania. For someone who is bi-polar (and cycles) but is pushed to cycle by the depressive side only this med alone can work great. Unfortunately I have other things (stress or chemistry) that push me into hypomania and insomnia as you mentioned. Right now I am currently trying a low level dose (5mg) of Abilify. In the evening. It's been helping me sleep and making more level (no hypomania).
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    Fri, January 6, 2006 - 6:10 PM
    Hi Kelly -

    I did not like Lamicatl. In fact, I started to have some pretty severe headaches on the stuff and that is when I started feeling like my brain was going to melt deep into my pillow somewhere and that something was out to get me.

    Then I took Seroquel and that was more hell and nightmares and since I have just quit with anti-epileptic drugs and atypical anti-psychotics, all those things have gone away.

    And on Lamictal, I just felt mean, and that's not like me. Usually if someone causes me a righteous attack of indignation, I can have a short fuse and if somone can deal wtih it and have some patience for me and aren't sliming with a lot of b.s., I can work through it, but on Lamictal, I just felt mean and agitated all the time.

    And it hurt my muscles.

    I think there will be nothing more for me than an anti-depressant, as I can work on vitamins, meditation, yoga, and just trying to remember not to take myself so seriously.

    Maybe it is the drugs I did when I was teenager, how my brain is wired, or the ECT at 20 that did something, but those drugs that are supposed to calm you down or keep you from hallucinating, make me worse!
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      Fri, January 6, 2006 - 6:14 PM
      I also take Trazadone for sleep and it works pretty well and doesn't leave me feeling all gumbied all the next day and miserably exhausted.

      I was thinking, "Now why didn't they jsut start wtih this in the first place?"

      However, it is not a mood stabilizer and by now I am having a few problems with anxiety or feeling like I am on the verge of a panic attack. In having to live with my mother for a whle this year, I got to learn the root of my anxiety attacks as a small child on up to 21 and it has been pretty interesting.

      anhyway, I'm too chatty tonight, Didn't mean to hijack this thread. Carry on! :)
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      Thu, October 4, 2007 - 7:07 AM
      This may sound sick and twisted, but I kind of enjoy nightmares, since I no longer fear them..

      I control my dreams and don't let them control me.. It's something I learned as a kid, to deal with the constant nightmares..
      After watching scary movies i'd have a dream about what I'd watched, and I'd have to run or fight off what was coming after me..

      Ultimately I win against what is coming against me in my dreams and it becomes quite enjoyable as I become the hero, honestly I think its a healthy way of dealing with internal conflict and not being subjected to it, but controlling it and turning it into something good.

      My docter wants to put me on Lamictal, how well does it work for Rapid-cycling manic-depressive? I'm currently trying out Abilify and it seems pretty good, i'm slowly getting over the sleepiness and I noticed an increase in nightmares, which isn't all that bad for me.
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    Mon, January 9, 2006 - 7:12 AM
    I have been on Lamictal for a year now and I must say it has helped me a lot, my moods have stabilized. But......my sleep is a mess too, I don't know if that still is because of my depression etc. My doctor says that Lamictal helps in prolonging the onset of Depression. I think what you are experiencing is a possible manic cycle
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      Tue, January 10, 2006 - 9:06 PM
      WiLeyCaT - that is good info to know; the muscle aches and sleep issues are a few I'm experiencing at 125/mg daily). While I am not living with my 'family of origin' I can definitely relate to looking at my own "roots" and getting some of those ah-ha moments.

      Oliver - I'm looking forward to greater mood stability. Lamictal has helped already in shortening or preventing the usual winter depressions I usually had to just endure and try not to drive my car off a cliff.

      This last Sunday and Monday were spent in some surreal sleep-deprivation experiment my brain was conducting without my express permission. All I could think, as I felt that coming on, was oh shit, not again! This time it was over 48 hours before I felt remotely sleepy -- it was the incredible muscle aching that got me worst.
      So
      I am seeing my psychiatrist tomorrow (sounds like a line from a Woody Allen movie) and hope to get some feedback and suggestions from him. If his ideas seem interesting I'll post it.

      p.s. wileycat -- chatty is cool by me, I enjoyed your posts :)
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        Wed, January 11, 2006 - 5:06 PM
        I've found that exercize can help with the muscle aches or at least daily streching. I tend to be pretty flexible so I get less of the aches than other people....

        As for the sleep your best bet is to get on something to help with the sleep, mild anti-psychotic, sleep med like ambien, or something from the anti-anxiety family.

        As it is I take 5 mg of abilify and I'm still only getting 5-6 hours instead of the 8 I was hoping for.
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          Tue, January 24, 2006 - 6:24 PM
          I was put on Trazadone 150 mg. 1/2 to 2 at night for sleep and it is helping. It is an antidepressant that they use for sleep even if people are not depressed. The generic or whatever name for this is Desryl if that rings a bell for anyone who was in young adulthood by the mid 1980's. I don't wake up all gumbied like I did with Seroquel and it doesn't affect me for the rest of the next day. I find taking a 1/2 works really well and my morning depression is easier to take.

          I wonder if major sleep disorders can be part of being Bipolar. I feel that my problem may be due to pain signals being fired in my sleep but as well, this BP stuff got worse along with the sleep disorder. I am beginning to doubt I will ever be able to sleep through a night without a pharmaceutical again. But as long as I sleep, I don't care. No sleep = set up for an eventual crash and burn from a high to mixed state.
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            Fri, January 27, 2006 - 10:02 AM
            Ah yes, the dreaded Mixed States that my brain cooks up like leftovers gone bad. :P

            My psychiatrist did not seem phased by my report of Sunday Monday sleep-free tweakness. He raised my dosage (again, Lamictal only) to 200 mg/daily. He's probably just trying to figure out what that magic "threshold" is for my addled neurons. I love being a walking experiment. Errr, not.

            Oddly, (considering Lamictal's rep for decreasing depressive episodes) I went through a two day depression last week. The suicidal 'ideation' crawled inside and got me to seek my therapist twice a week. Still not sure where my Mood sits. Agitation and "0 to 60" responses to things that normally wouldn't bother me ....then times when nothing can get through to me. Ugh. Feeling a bit like the Mad Hatter got hold of the Tilt-A-Whirl I'm on.

            Before trying to get some Ambien (which works so nicely for me) I am going to try seeing a personal trainer 2x/weekly. Something about being physically active appeals more to me than just another man-made thing to remember to take or be concerned about. Who knows? Maybe I'll be able to sleep AND fit into those awesome jeans currently collecting dust in my closet!

            WiLeY -- I often wonder if/what the connection may be in sleep disorders and bipolar. I think there are strong ties between/around the two. All those hormones and signals getting crossed or lost. I don't know if we have a bruised blessing or confused curse. Not that things are that black and white...

            I'm currently reading "The Midnight Disease" by Anne Flaherty (a neurologist) and another Kay Redfield Jamison book.... getting as many opinions and perspectives as possible on how our special brains work and manifest (the sometimes) twisted rainbows.
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    Fri, January 27, 2006 - 7:12 PM
    be glad you can take the lamictal. my doc hyped it as the miracle bipolar drug that would cure all my ills and got me all excited and then no matter how slowly we took the dosing, i kept getting a mouth rash and had to come immediately off of it until the rash was treated and went away. went through that several times. so now i'm on other stuff and just came off a crash and burn and a rapid cycling episode that left me totally befundled. i've finally leveled out, somewhat, for me, which means i don't want to kill myself and i dont want to go out and go totally insane. but i have heard tons of wonderful things about lamictal from other sources since then that makes me wish that i could take it so bad. so, you guys are lucky.
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      Sat, January 28, 2006 - 3:29 AM
      My doctor is putting me all the way up to 300 mg! I'm at 200 now. This week I've been in a horrible rut, couldn't even get out of bed and end up staying up late into the night. Grrrr. I'm going to start doing alot of cardio and yoga as soon as I can drag my ass out of this dark pit of darkness.
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      Sat, January 28, 2006 - 3:33 AM
      oh yeah, and i'm pretty sure I was thrust into hypomania ... the first month or so, I was doing exceptionally well in school, A+'s all throughout, after 4 years of failure in college... I was planning on applying to Stanford, and I was going to do everything in the world that it would take. I mean my mind was SET. And now, I don't even think I'll get out of community college, let alone get out of bed, or fall asleep tonight. So yeah I actually had never had an episode like that.. I suffer from Bipolar II, so I had never experienced anything like that and didn't even realize it was going on. Now that I'm back in my hole, it's quite obvious how high in the sky I was. This is all coinciding with me beginning to take lamictal. ANd I wasn't able to sleep so I was handed some clonazepam. Which didn't help me, but instead sent me into a week long binge of benzodiazapene abuse, and I ended up doing some pretty crazy stuff. so YES. Definitely hypomania, and I need to get back to ambien, which was what had always done the deed for me.
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    Sun, February 5, 2006 - 12:28 PM
    hi K !

    pay attention to these words, for they are neuoroligcally stimulated by from what we all know and love; LAMICATAL

    i liked lamictal
    im a shy person
    really shy
    but lamictal kind of surpresses that and i suppose it treats more of the depression instead of mania

    although im not paranoid on lamictal at all
    but i do however have conversations with people that aren't talking
    which is bad apparently so they are taking me off of lamicatal and putting me back on abilify

    oh man
    abilify is the worst
    anxious all the time
    they call it ablilfy for a reason; they neuroligically sitimulate the living daylights out of you so that you are completely un at ease. it takes away your thoughts, and transmitts all the excess solely to your nerves. you're mind is empty but your biological makeup is gasping from an overload. an unequal balance. you run around (literally) to use up your energy. you run because you have to, and if you're not running than sleeping is always a good option too. anything to distract your body from tormenting your idleness

    so hey look imagine this!
    my name is Dr. ILoveToTreatBipolar. I give my patient abilify. 2 months later she comes back, she's in shape and she thinks clearly. this is great! Everyone should experience it!

    its all a coax. further detail i feel would distract your purposes. and. im rambling.

    gotta get ready for the superbowl
    ta ta!

    LAMICATAL, signing off
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      Sun, February 5, 2006 - 5:00 PM
      Ive been on lamictal for 2 years and its helped my moods stabilize. I feel alittle dulled by it, I think...but I'd hate to be without it again. I take abilify and cymbalta too.
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        Wed, February 15, 2006 - 7:24 AM
        I want to thank all of you for continuing to contribute to this thread. I know it means a lot to me. All the experiences with Lamictal (in addition to the other combinations mentioned) are educating me as a person new to diagnosis and as a patient who is very new to prescription mood stabilizers.

        I am feeling a bit doubtful about Lamictal (at least, on its own) and what my life has become since taking it daily (perfectly as prescribed). I am still sleepless 2-3 full days a week. I'm having trouble concentrating, and irritation is the most common mood I have even when I do get 4-6 hours of sleep. I am keeping more to myself these days because I don't really 'trust' my reactions to things (like asshole drivers or people loudly talking on their cellphones further disturbing my fragile concentration, etc). I used to shrug that shit off, but now little things grate my mind like so much soft cheese.
        The Lamictal is not helping the depression episodes. The psychiatrist gave me Ambien to help with the sleep issues, but even 2 Ambien doesn't make a dent. Through trial and error, I have discovered that 2 Ambien, 1 Valium, and 2 OTC sleep aids, with some good bourbon has worked. But I don't like the feeling of being dependent on those things just to get to sleep. Before taking the Lamictal, I didn't have sleep issues even in my most manic times. Right now, I don't see how the Lamictal is helping me, but I try to ride it out and trust my doctors.

        I do feel flat inside, even more than I had thought I would... being a researcher/writer it's important to me to cultivate both clarity and creativity, and both are being squashed by this particular drug.
        It's been over 2 months since beginning the Lamictal, and already I have considered stopping. Of course, I keep taking it, but the doubt of its efficacy (for me) is growing. I will speak to the med doctor March 1, and see what he says. I just don't want to be in a situation where I am taking several pills a day -- each to counteract the others' effects.

        Not to be a downer, but I can see how....I can see why.... this condition of ours takes so many of us. I try hard to see the upside, the positive comments you have shared, the books and medical abstracts that 'prove' the long term effectiveness of these drugs, and that keeps me hoping that I am wrong....that I should stay on the routine. I will continue, and I guess that means something.

        This turned out longer than I set out to write.
        Thanks for being here to listen.
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          Thu, February 16, 2006 - 2:57 AM
          I am currently up to 100mg of Lamictal from the 5 week pack. I am rapid cycling for the past 3 weeks now. At this point I wish I had just hypomania or depression. I hate that I get up either depressed and try to go to sleep while in a hypomanic state, or vice versa. I was just diagnosed BPD type 2 5 weeks ago. So this is an adjustment period for me. I was diagnosed with ADHD previous to that and put on Strattera which has no effect for me as well. I take Ambien CR to sleep up to 4 hrs, and Ativan if I wake up b4 3 am. I'm a complete and total mess right now. To many things hitting me at 1 time. When will it end? I feel like Job in the bible.lol

          Bill
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          Sat, February 18, 2006 - 1:15 AM
          "Through trial and error, I have discovered that 2 Ambien, 1 Valium, and 2 OTC sleep aids, with some good bourbon has worked"
          Whew Girl WOW that's A LOT of dope!!! You're a walking pharmacy! LOL
          But you gotta do what you gotta do. When I told my shrink once that I was taking 2.5 ambiens he almost jumped off the couch LOL
          Ambien is still the best for sleep. There is a new one out by the name of Rozerem. It's pretty good but it only works for me here and there. Ambien has got the best knock out effect I feel. Either way though being dependent on sleeping meds is no way to live. I finally am off those things for the first time in 2 years. I had an traumatic even in my life which really fucked me up so no matter what I took I had to wait for the thing to run its course. Basically the drugs suppress a natural condition of your brain. If you're depressed you're depressed if you're manic you're manic. That's the nature of the beast. I feel you're your own doctor in some ways of dealing with this condition. You know what will work for you. Eliminate the stressors and the conditions which contribute to the onset of symptoms.
          For me it's getting plenty of sleep. No all night partying and no alcohol. Alcohol fucks up your brain chemistry. Period. Also plenty of fresh air and a good healthy diet goes a long way. If you can go on a treadmill or do yoga more power to you.
          You can take all kinds of drugs. They're not gonna cure you. They help, but you will have to make the effort and say I am not gonna let this thing kick my ass.
          My feel about the Lamictal is that it prolongs the onset of depression. IF you are already in an existing episode then it's not gonna help your depression. However for me it has stabilized me. I can't see not taking it. It has improved the quality of my life tremendously.
          As far as reading medical books on the subject? WTF for? Yeah I peeked in one a few weeks ago at Border's bookstore.
          "the tremendous pain these people go through is astounding and the affect on their families etc." yeah so what else is new? BFD!
          I have dealt with this shit for 12 years now and now I am finally seeing some light at the end of the tunnel. Suicide is no longer an option for me. Believe me I have thought about it so I would not have to deal with this conditon anymore.
          Look at it this way. You're special! LOL
          peace
          oz
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            The Pharmacy :)

            Wed, February 22, 2006 - 3:31 PM
            Oliver - yes, the lengths I'll go to for some shuteye brings out some uh, 'creativity' in the medicine cabinet. But I don't do that often. I'm looking forward to a (long awaited) time slot 2x/weekly with a great personal trainer, and I hope she kicks my ass so thoroughly that I will have no choice but to sleep soundly.

            And I agree that sometimes reading abstracts can be "no shit sherlock", but I read them only for the prescription info -- mostly so I can make sense of some of the things I have read in other documents, or even from the psychiatrist. Something like being a more informed 'consumer'. My preferred 'bipolar reading' are those books that are positive or 'look on the bright side'.

            I am so glad to read your posts, Oliver -- 12 years is certainly a milestone I hope to reach.
            As for being special...well, I try to tell myself a little bit every day. It can take the edge off of daily twinges in the ol mental gearbox. :)
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            Wed, February 22, 2006 - 9:03 PM
            "I HAD a HEADACHE!"

            To quote a certain movie most bipolars will be familiar with..
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              Sat, March 11, 2006 - 8:17 PM
              Bill: I too am going through an Ambien thing – about once a week I have to take 2 and even that gets me only 3 or 4 hours of steady sleep (or puts me in so deeply that I don’t wake up til 1 pm). This Bipolar thing is still so new to me, I’m taking it one day at a time and using a mood chart and journal to help understand my triggers and patterns.

              Seth: Are you referring to “A Woman Under the Influence”? I can’t figure out which one – tell me :)
              There are a lot of movies about practically every other condition – if you know of any about bipolar specifically, I’d love to know. Call me a glutton for punishment, but I like watching those dark sort of movies.

              And this shit IS expensive! I saw that my prescription would easily cost me $600 monthly if I didn’t have insurance through my husband. I can see how people with any disorder like ours (Axis 1) could have to choose getting their meds or paying rent/buying food – much less the other regular expenses of life. I know I could not work a regular job (with my own benefits), and I shudder to think of what would happen if I did lose my benefits.

              I saw on a Canadian website that you can get it for $118 - $155 (at your same dose and # of pills). Don’t know if you have tried searching for it outside the US. Try www.pharmacychecker.com for some comparison shopping. I was amazed at how low some of the prices are

              Mark: I agree – telling my doctor and therapist everything is becoming not only easier, but very helpful (particularly regarding the meds, which we’re keeping at 200mg/day until we see how the Annual Spring Mania episodes go). I’m feeling more secure in the relationships I have with the doctors, so that’s a good thing for me to remember when the days are long and rough.
              I have a hard time meditating (racing thoughts that just won’t leave me alone) – however, I got a treadmill, and that has become a kind of meditation for me. I have gotten up to 10 miles a day, and that has so many benefits, I just don’t know what I would do without that darn thing. And my ass is looking great again. Lol

              Akasha: It’s posts like yours – positive Lamictal stories—that keep me hanging on to the “lucky” feeling that I tolerate that med so well. And for now, I don’t have any other pills to take, so I guess I’m lucky there too. We’ll see if that has to change with that wild upswing I always feel in Spring and Summer. Those months are frickin CRAZY – unbounded energy, sleepless for days, racing tangential thoughts, grandiose perceptions, and sex sex sex on the brain. In a way, I’m going to miss that World Is My Oyster feeling.

              I totally understand your feelings about work – it’s hard enough to get out of bed some days, and just as hard to keep a leash on myself other days. I always had a hard time keeping jobs when I was younger and now I just don’t think I could do a regular M-F 9-5 situation. I hope you can find work that is both flexible to your needs and satisfying for you.

              I do still have occasional thoughts about What Life Would Be Like without the Lamictal. I know myself ‘well enough’ to acknowledge I have the capacity to do something like stop taking the med ---especially on those I’m Feeling GREAT days. This tribe is pretty much what keeps me on track with staying on. (and thank you all for THAT!!)
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      Tue, October 2, 2007 - 7:17 AM
      Cute :)

      My doc wanted to put me on Lamictal, but I have issues with rash from allergies anyways and he was sort of worried i'd be one of those
      1 in 100000 people who gets the dreaded rash, lol.

      So he put me on Abilify (15mg), I kinda like it, Instead of feeling depressed I feel normal? bright mood, not mania not depressed but normal.. I can so totally stay on this stuff for ever..

      Curious, anyone had weight gain or sexual side effects on Lamictal or Abilify?
      I hear that it is not possible to have sexual side effects on Abilify due to it not raising pro-lactin levels in the blood, what do you think?
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    Thu, February 23, 2006 - 2:31 PM
    I've been on lamicatl for several years and have found it to be a wonder drug for me, as long as it is mitigated by the depakote i take. The depakote puts a cap on what the mania can do.

    Stay in total contact with your doctor, and take everything seriously, especially swings of agression. That is always my cue.

    I get nasty panic attacks, or used to as they have subsided with the last years, and since I have taken up meditation.

    Meditation has saved my life. I'm not talking about hocus pocus, I'm talking about stilling the mind. It has evened me out to a place of happiness. It's amazing

    I started a blog on it bipolarmeditation.blogspot.com/ if you are interested.

    I wish I had started meditating when i started 15 years of therapy, and it wasn't til 8 into it that they found out I was bipolar. AFTER they gave me prozac and I got manic and spent 15,000 dollars I didn't have.

    Based on what you are saying, I'd say the Lamictal is too high, but i am not a doc, just a user. You definitely sound a little pre manic. Call your doctor and tell them everything.

    I love lamictal. It actually made my mind clearer.

    Try meditating. 5 minutes a day of peace. It has had a profound effect on me.

    Don't be afraid. You'll be fine. Call your doctor and tell them all you have said here. The biggest mistake people make is not telling their doctors everything!
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      Tue, March 7, 2006 - 8:11 PM
      I have been on lamictal for almost 3 years now and I know it has helped me some but lately I have been having problems staying asleep and I have been getting paranoid. Have lots of other things like serequil, remeron, depakote and others that make me feel like I am in a hole. I can't think or get out of bed at all one of those pills...can't remember which, almost caused me to throw up and felt dizzy and could not even walk.

      So far Lamical is the only thing that is working for me. I can relate to what everyone has posted here.

      A
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        Wed, March 8, 2006 - 12:13 AM
        The only thing that pisses me off about Lamictal is how much it costs if you're uninsured and have to pay out of pocket. I just spent $255 or abouts on filling a script myself since my old doc in CT who was filling my scripts retired and my parents could'nt easily fill it and ship it down, so I had to pay with my own money down here in TX (they try to help me out with the $$ as I am still in school and my job, while good, does'nt pay me much more than $300 every 2 weeks). $255 for a bottle of 60 150mg tabs. I mean Jesus H. Christ, it'd be cheaper for me to smoke crack! I can't wait to work fulltime and have health benefits, because there is no way otherwise that I'm gonna be able to afford to even take Lamictal anymore.
        • Re: Lamictal and Mania?

          Wed, March 8, 2006 - 2:42 PM
          Yeah Its unbelieveable what it costs for Lamictal. I had to pay 280. once I quit my job in Jan and still had an insurance card from that job and decided to just try it in Feb when my script ran out and miraculously it worked even though they told me I no longer had insurance after I quit...so I paid like 30.00 My Dr gives me samples sometimes because I can't hold down a job for the life of me and when I finally work long enough to get insurance again I end up quitting.
          '

          I really can't deal with the stress of work anymore. I get so stressed out and no one can stand to be around me. I am just a mess.

          Mr Dr just put me on resperdal today because I was almost hospitalized again..I just can't do that because there is no one to stay with my kids so I convinced them that I would be okay at home I guess I am on some kind of clinical supervision where they call you every night to make sure your not going to do anything dangerous to yourself or other people.

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  • Re: Lamictal and Mania?

    Wed, March 8, 2006 - 4:11 PM
    Hi all -

    Just back from appt #1 with new dr.

    very embarassing to cry when he asked for my SSN. Full blow anxiety attack upon entering the place, took every once of energy I had to stay in the office and wait for my appt.

    after *thinking* I didn't need to be on the lamictal anymmore - I quit a couple months ago - needless to say I have barely made it until today - but alas, now have a new supply and get to start back up the doses with the starter pack.

    how long before the swings start to slow down? 4 weeks before I'm up to the 100mgs again...

    has anyone else stopped and gone back on? did you remember how fast you could feel the effects?

    I am so worn out from fighting these highs and lows - I could just kick myself for stopping in the first place AND throwing out a 3 month supply. dumb dumb dumb
    • Re: Lamictal and Mania?

      Wed, March 8, 2006 - 6:23 PM
      I went off my Lamictal as well. I was on 200 mg a day and just stopped. Honestly, I am starting week 3 and don't feel anything yet. But we are all different so maybe it will work quicker for you.
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        Wed, March 8, 2006 - 9:20 PM
        I did the same thing I coudl not afford to get refilled so I thought I was doing fine and went without it. What I do unfortunately when I feel out of control and afraid is drink a lot and do whatever drugs I can get my hands on so I was doing all of these other pills and getting f'ed up which made the situation even worse. When i went back on the lamictal it probably took about a month before I felt back to where I was and didn't even have the urge to drink or do anything...I'm not totally perfect in my moods but it is more managable...probably a month for me. But like the earlier response it could be quicker for you...

        I hope it does.
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  • Re: Lamictal and Mania?

    Fri, January 11, 2008 - 7:53 PM
    Here are my experiences with a variety of med's. Feel free to ask me for more info if it helps.

    I would have to say that Lamictal has been the best drug to put me back in touch with me.

    I have tried many medications to balance me.
    Gabitril: Nothing
    Buspar: Ok with Anxiety Issues not for depression or mania
    Prozac: pre-bipolar diagnosis. NOT GOOD I was high as a kite and lost 10 pounds because I forgot to eat.

    Zyprexa was great for about 4 years. However, after gaining 20 pounds and chain smoking 1-2 packs a day, I became sick of those side effects. I smoked to wake up, get out of the Zyprexa fog. I was still mean and irritable. I would fall into depressions and now looking back rarely enjoyed creative manias.

    I then switch to Lamictal last year. With thee lovely starer package. 25mg what they say is slowly increasing to 200mg. I started to lose a few pounds, quit smoking, smiled, was happy, hardly ever depressed, borderline manic, but what I feel controlled. I set out some goals and accomplished them while on Lamictal.
    I wrote a book.
    I got 2 killer corporate jobs through out the year
    I fell in love with my fiance all over again
    Improved our relationship through positive communication
    and I was extremely giggly

    It was all great until the pain came. It felt like I had the flu with all the body aches. My skin hurt, my muscle ached and my joints were in pain. Also I started lactating. Really weird. At one point I couldn't stand up longer than 3 minutes with out being in horrendous pain. Then even sitting I would get lightening bolts of pain.

    So I switched to Depakote and Wellbutrin.
    Wellbutrin is a nightmare if you have even a 1/2 cup of coffee. Basically short circutted my nervous system. So be careful of wellbutrin and caffeine. However, Welbutrin did take the taste and need for cigarettes completely away.
    Depakote put me over the edge.
    I lost my eyesight, my hair, gained weight back, I got diagnosed with BPPV and Labrithitist, the ringing in my ears drove me crazy.
    I dropped the Wellbutrin, stayed on Depakot for 4 months.

    When I realized that I was in a horrible depression everyday for 4 months, never finished edited or publishing my book and fought with my fiance everyday, I decided to go back to Lamictal.

    Now, I am on 25 mg's along with 5HTP herbal supplement and Frutiaga liquid herbal supplement.

    I am back loving my fiance, loving my life, I am increasing my Lamictal mg's very very very very very slowly, and I am editing my book with the plan on it being published in May 08. yay.

    So Mania? Possibly. But is it mania when you actually get shit done? Is it mania when you have been depressed for 4 months doing nothing and now you have to make up for lost time.? Who knows? I am happy and doing things happily. So that is what I am going with now.


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    Re: Lamictal and Mania?

    Sat, January 12, 2008 - 7:04 PM
    hi k,
    i started lami about a month ago; i'm at 50mg now with all kinds of "fun" side effects. ;-)
    migrains, swelling in unmentionable parts, sleeping too much or not enough.
    but every few days, coming out of the haze, i feel, well...how shall i put it... normal.
    little islands of energy and willingness to do stuff.
    i'm supposed to be on 50 for two more weeks and then 100. can't wait!
    you went up fast! you know about the steven johnson thing, right?

    let us know how it's going.

    (i miss hypomania! my place looks like shit; i need either hypomania or a maid...)
  • Re: Lamictal and Mania?

    Sat, September 5, 2009 - 6:47 AM
    I'm a creative type bipolar. Every other med killed my creativity, my intellect ,my passion& my spirit. I felt literally reborn when I started Lamictal. Dosage control brought me to a very manageable state of being. Unlike ANY OTHER med, I felt normal but not overfiring in my head. Everyone who knows me is blown away by the change.
  • Re: Lamictal and Mania?

    Sat, September 5, 2009 - 6:57 AM
    Here's the deal as I see it: everyone is born with an innate state of being , your strengths & weaknesses you can say. bipolar is a state of being that is the EXTREME manifestation of a "different" state. That state, when adequately controlled rather than suppressed has great value in terms of what we can give to our communities. we are generally more creative and more sensitive than average. we can add this value that makes life that much better for everyone.
  • Re: Lamictal and Mania?

    Mon, December 14, 2009 - 6:21 AM
    i stopped taking my lamictal. It was perscribed to me for a mood stableizer and i found the herbal supplement st johns wort worked much better. I always felt down on the drug and even my husband can see the difference. As far as sleep i was perscribed lamictal with seroquel so i had no problem falling asleep. It seems no doctor wants to give anything natural when i told my physcian i had switched and she told me whatever works so talk to your doctor and see how they feel about natural supplements. Im 29 so I am reallythe time im worried about having to have a liver transplant by the time im 40.

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