very, very messy.
and i postpone everything possible.
is it bp or just my shity character?
and i postpone everything possible.
is it bp or just my shity character?
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Re: i'm messy
Tue, February 5, 2008 - 2:45 AMWell... I dont think it is BP..... so....
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Tue, February 5, 2008 - 3:59 PMthat's what i was afraid of, blokie. no meds for that.
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Wed, February 6, 2008 - 2:19 AM<<lobotomy perhaps. >>
I don't think we have to be that drastic,.... just a filing cabinet and a vacuum maybe... -
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Wed, February 6, 2008 - 1:03 PM<<just a filing cabinet and a vacuum maybe... >>
If we cant do it now, a tool isnt going to make it so. -
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Wed, February 6, 2008 - 1:42 PMSEAN says "If we cant do it now, a tool isnt going to make it so."
Not so fast. What about a fleet of those robotic vacuums? I am not sure if they make them heavy duty enough to vacuum up socks and other clothing, but when they do, put me on the list for one. It's going to have to have off-road tires to handle going up and down on throw rugs, and has to have the ability to suck up wet cat hair balls too.
It would also be nice if they could not only support the weight of said cat, to give the cat something to do, but would support my weight too, so I could ride around on the vacuum. If the apartment was a little larger, I'd go for a ride-on mower, with the bag attachment to handle all the problems of anything on the floor.
I would then learn to pick more things up, or I would have mulch from ottomans and clothing and area rugs.
I have always been messy. I also have bad back problems, that makes it hurt really bad to bend over. Hence, I don't bend over. Too often anyway. Climbing is a problem too, so I had the great idea of getting a floor mop and using it on the walls. Perhaps if it has a swiveling head, that would have worked. Perhaps if it had been a regular sponge kind it would have worked. But no, I HAD to pick out the one with the "Magic Eraser" head. It's kind of solid.
So mostly what happened is I had water dribbling on my head and running down my arms, into my shirt, passing over my underarm area, and being absorbed by my bra.
My ideal home consists of something similar to a zoo enclosure in which I could just hose down the place. Furniture too. Maybe just some nice patio plastic chairs and a lounge chair. Hose it all down. It makes SO much sense. Nice big drain in the middle of the floor. Doing it naked would take care of the shower part too. And could also just leave dishes on the floor (like in the Sims game) and hose those off too. Guess the floor drain better have a garbage disposal in it.
It's not our fault that we have problems with messiness. It's just that they don't make houses with center drains and ride-on mulching vacuums. -
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Wed, February 6, 2008 - 3:12 PMLOL!
true, you are so creative!
you should be an architect!
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Tue, February 5, 2008 - 3:14 AMit's me too ... we're too airy fairy signs that need sherpas or manservants preferably french boys wearing a black turtleneck stripey grey flarey suit pants, red gola trainers, glasses and possibly of jewish origin (i have a thing for jewish boys ... and french boys ... what can i say?!?!?) to pick up after us.
we are delightfully shabby chic!
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xox
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Tue, February 5, 2008 - 4:00 PMi have an italian boy, but he can't keep up with me; i'm very good at what i do.
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Tue, February 5, 2008 - 10:44 PM<<very, very messy.
and i postpone everything possible. >>
this is totally me. another friend with bp depression actually is the same. we have to be motivated actually do clean up sometimes. we have to have a pressing deadline to make us, or we just wallow in it. and then have anxiety and depression because we arent cleaning. -
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Tue, February 5, 2008 - 11:05 PMyeah, that's what i mean!
so, are all bp's like this? i mean, is it a part of bp? maybe it's the combo of bp/add/anxiety.
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Tue, February 5, 2008 - 11:33 PMoh, and i don't talk just about house stuff, but i don't do my work as much as i have too; and i don't enjoy my work.
i have a great house that could look beautiful but doesn't coz it's messy, and i have a great project to work on that doesn't get done coz i
postpone working on it. now they're both so bad that i hate it. i've tried to work on changing habits and expectations and all that,i put myself
through a boot camp routine for years, i've worked and studied and achieved things that seem like a big deal to others but not to me; i just
don't feel i can go on like this much longer. it's not pretty.
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Mon, February 25, 2008 - 3:43 PMYes! Yes! Yes!! Me and my brother both! My self-esteem becomes beyond recovery as I shame myself for not doing everything. To me if everything isn't done, and well, it's failure. So I don't even want to try. The wallowing is where I spend most of my time shaming myself...hating myself...feeling ashamed etc....ugly unpleasant unbreakable circle... -
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Mon, February 25, 2008 - 4:49 PMi don't feel as bad about it as i used to; i used to not have people over because i was ashamed of my place, but now i make fun of it; when people come over i'll say something like, the maid has been here today, that's why the place is so tidy, or that the house is always really clean and organized exept when feb.25 falls on a monday, like today.
i realize i rather have people over than feel bad about what my place looks like. i still wish i had more control over this. i do interir design, i make other people's places look good, and my own place doesn't meet my own sense of esthetics. it sucks. -
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Mon, February 25, 2008 - 5:04 PMwhy can we do for others but not for ourselves? I tidy for my friends and when I was in hs, babysitting, I used to clean up the kids rooms! I have also achieved big things that others find impressive. But I always feel like a failure. Which came first low self esteem or bp? Who can tell? I definitely think that our procrastination is related to our mood disorder- mostly b/c of the severity and hugeness of the being so overwhelmed by something that isn't that hard. It's another extreme so typical to bp.... -
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Mon, February 25, 2008 - 5:07 PMIt's another manifestation of not being able to get out of bed, or go to get badly needed meds. I once coached another friend with bp by phone to get her dressed and into the car so she could go get back on meds that she clearly needed...
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Mon, February 25, 2008 - 5:22 PMi can't really clean or organize for others, i'm not focused enough, i a.d.d. all over the place. what i do as a designer is coming up with ideas and let other people build and paint and all that, while i come to supervise every once in a while and change my mind about things and drive them crazy. -
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Mon, February 25, 2008 - 6:24 PMit runs all over my family too.
back to the messiness thing, i wonder if there's some way to overcome this; anybody has an idea? i mean, something that really works
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Mon, February 25, 2008 - 7:07 PMyes- also the procrastination (which I'd like to stress again is not laziness, but an absolute mental, panic inducing block)- help, ideas? Anyone?
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Sun, March 16, 2008 - 12:59 PMOh my GOD. I do the same thing!!!!
I just want to take my ideas and throw them at wall and let people see what I want them to see. However I end up telling other people my ideas and let them develop them. I could not possibly stay still to finish any of them. I so want to learn how to focus and STAY focused.
By the way I am having a really hard time concentrating and I just can't write to save my life. Please forgive me if sometimes I don't make sense. I write something and then I read it before I post it and it looks fine. Then I go back and read it again after I post it and see that I don't make any sense. I sometimes think that I wrote something and it's not even half in the paragraph.
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Re: i'm messy
Mon, February 25, 2008 - 11:47 PMIt’s depression.
Messy is depression I think. Postponing is because you are afraid to loose, or complete, or succeed. If you always have something to work on you will successfully avoid looking at yourself, which can be painful.
The trick is to focus on all that is good about you, or that you like about yourself and work ONLY on that. If you’re an artistic and you’re good at it, then work on that. If you’re not good at it but you enjoy it do it until you’re good at it. Choose experiences that will strengthen you.
Stay away from labels like BP, or ADD, etc. There is no magic pill…but you can change your choice at anytime.
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Tue, February 26, 2008 - 4:53 AMa.d.d. is NO label friend .. it's a very real situation for a lot of people ... come off your new age high horse . -
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Thu, February 28, 2008 - 1:38 PMwhat does a.d.d. stand for?
I'm messy and lazy but I don't see that as part of bp... just personal flaws. Of course it's worst when depressed. I hope one day I will change those aspects. -
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Thu, February 28, 2008 - 1:49 PMattention deficit disorder
there is adult form and child form and hyperactive version and non-hyperactive version ...
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Fri, February 29, 2008 - 10:36 AM"postponing" is a good way to look at it. I think there's something to that. I think the mental illness plays a role because I've experienced the " I don't feel like it" feeling, and what I believe we're talking about is so much more of a hindrance that that. It's like a manifestation of not being able to get out of bed. It's more like I just can't do it, even if I really want it done, even if I'm making my life a great deal harder.
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